Who The Hell Wants Greens?
Health
Written by Theresa   
Monday, 18 October 2010 07:33

Customer service is a huge part of the dining experience.  Understatement of the year, I know, any poor service experience can leave a bad taste in your mouth whether you are eating or not.  The tough part about the service industry is that, one single person can make or break how a customer feels about the entire operation.  I learned this only too well when I was in sales in the hotel industry and some dufus in another department would fail to read the simple items which had been committed to the client. “No can do, ma’am, your room is right between the elevator and the ice machine on the floor with the peewee hockey team. It really doesn’t matter if you need your sleep to help you decide whether to bring millions of dollars of business our way.”

This weekend one person affected my dining experience in such a way that caused me not only to have serious indigestion but to question the commitment of the establishment to their concept: spa country inn. It also caused me to question my entire raison d’etre (I know, I do feel a bit lame).  Here’s how it went:

We stayed at this Spa Country Inn for the third time and found that breakfast was now included in our rate.  Yay! It was a lovely little room of about 10 tables with a simple, seemingly healthy  yet hearty breakfast.  The first morning went smoothly enough. I asked for mixed greens in place of the fried potato Rosti but was informed by the (really sweet, extremely young, slightly inefficient) server that chef had not picked up her greens yet but they could give me more fruit instead.  Fine, no problem ,that’ll do.  But the fruit was uninspiring, either under-ripe cantaloupe or over-ripe berries. A small glitch at such and establishment, nothing too worrisome. Say B+

The next morning, after realizing that the limited breakfast menu was exactly the same, I made the same request knowing that the chef was surely in receipt of her greens as of yesterday. Unless…

 

This (really sweet, extremely young slightly inefficient) server went back to the kitchen and made my request.  When the chef’s response came ringing clearly through the dining room “who the hell wants greens for breakfast” my stomach was in my throat.  Those eggs could have been the best in the entire county dipped in gold leaf and delivered on a platter of fresh honey dipped figs by a half naked Brad Pitt who only had eyes for me and I could not have eaten them. 

 

My embarrassment turned to anger and both states of being had stress hormones coursing through my body. A solid F grade. I recognize that most people would have pretended to ignore the comment, or worse, believed the comment had merit.  Either way, they may never ask for greens again.  Which I think is what bothers me so much about the event.

My whole place on this planet is wrapped up in encouraging people to make healthy change. If this is the kind of reaction that they get at a place that is supposed to be supporting that tenet how are they going to navigate their own world?  If I can’t reasonably ask people to ask for greens (at any time of day!) how flexible is our world to accommodate our new needs?  The health and obesity epidemic is something that I see intensely at every turn and feel passionately about changing.  You and I have but one life to live and it gets better with each small leaf of green.

I have staked my life on not being embarrassed to push the health envelop.  And with this simple, loudly blurted sentence, one woman made me feel as though I am pushing the whole damned cart of unopened mail up the hill in a snowstorm.  Please tell me I am not alone. Please tell me we won’t be dissuaded so easily? I’ll take your symbolic boots, hats, gloves, foot warmers, scarves and encouragement and keep going, I promise…

Please answer this with your comment for this misguided Spa Inn Chef:

“Who the hell wants greens with their breakfast?”

 

Comments
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Don't give up!
Dee Brun 2010-10-18 00:49:30

As I am writing this comment I am swirling in a sea of guilt...I am consuming an
entire pack of Peanut M&M's for my breakfast...There are green ones
tho...

Regardless of what yo asked for the "Chefs" reaction was rude
and uncalled for. Any good chef or even server...Would have noted that you were
going to be there that following morning for breakfast and made sure they had
your greens available. Especially in a small establishment as
that...

Customer Service Fail aside...

PREACH IT GIRL!! Don't stop...some
of this healthy stuff will sink in..NO more M&M's for breakfast for
me..

Cheers
Dee
You're Not Alone
Sharon 2010-10-18 00:55:50

While I most likely wouldn't ask for greens with my breakfast (although spinach
on toast with a poached egg - Delish!), I have asked for changes in a meal like
you. And if I heard the chef yell out like that, I would have been mortified.
I hope you let the manager/owners of the Inn know. His behaviour was totally
unacceptable.
Ally Ferguson 2010-10-18 01:05:52

I am so sorry you had this experience, but at the same time...

YAY FOR
ME!!!!

Because with all my commitment to organic eating and sustainabe food
it never even freaking OCCURRED to me you could have greens for breakfast! As a
non-egg eater struggling to find options for my biggest meal of the day that is
the best news ever!

Suggestions for what to have would be most appreciated
(hint hint recipe hint hint) :)
Another Perspective
Anonymous 2010-10-18 01:20:31

I know many of you are going to shoot me for this, alas since I preach the total
opposite of our dear (sweet very nice) columnist I feel I must speak up from the
other side.

1) You are requesting something that is off menu. This is NOT
your kitchen at home. It's a restaurant that runs by rules and timelines. Maybe,
just maybe the chef gets a daily delivery of greens after you had breakfast and
throws them out at the end of the day to maintain freshness. If you had wanted
greens for breakfast you should of requested they be served for you the next
day, not the day of. Chefs will go a long way to make a customer happy, in many
cases change dishes that they worked very hard on to make sure were right to
ensure you were happy. It would be like me coming over to your house and you
trying to serve me vegetarian dish and me basically then asking for some form of
meat protein to go with my dinner, not cool.

2) The young girl may b...
Argh
Anonymous 2010-10-18 01:23:36

Well apparently there is a limit on the length of the comment.

Needless to
say, your request while may be what you seem is reasonable wouldn't be construed
as such by any chef. If you want greens, request them the day before, or just
eat what comes on your plate. If I came to your house and you were a vegetarian
and I asked for a meat dish after you served dinner how would you feel?
Not alone
Karen Chang 2010-10-18 04:33:01

Anyone in the service industry, especially one that expressly there to pamper
you, should know that every customer's request, no matter what it is, must be
taken seriously. What a failure on that chef's part. Perhaps she had no idea
that, for example, salad is served routinely at breakfast in Japan, along with
miso soup. Guess the Japanese ambassador won't be eating there any time soon.
So, in answer to your question, a whole nation has greens at breakfast. You go
on and keep asking for it! After all, a country with some of the longest living
people can't be wrong.
Really
Anonymous 2010-10-19 00:12:04

Do you think that highly of yourself that you think a chef is there to pamper
your every request? Wow - I can tell you right now there are about 99.9999% of
chefs in the world right now that will look at you with a blank stare amazed at
your attitude. Since when did they become your personal servants. Especially
when something isn't even on the menu.
theresa albert 2010-10-19 02:36:07

To be clear, I did ask the day before and was ok with the response. It wasn't
the fact that greens were unavailable that was troublesome, it was the tone and
the language used to respond. Especially given that brunch was being served in
an hour and there was salad on that menu.

That said, I can appreciate that I
was going off menu and she was unprepared for special requests. Fair enough.
It's not easy being greens
Ilana Waldston 2010-10-19 02:40:39

Well, I'm on the middle on this one:
1. Nothing wrong with greens for bkfst but
as it is "off menu", asking the day before makes sense.

2. A chef
yelling something like that within earshot of the guests is completely
unacceptable. Then again, she may have just been having a bad day. Doesn't
excuse the behaviour but maybe you shouldn't take it so personally.

3. You
should absolutely continue your healthy crusade! If more people would ask for
that kind of item, maybe it will end up "on menu"!

4. "Personal
servants" - no, but we're talking about a high end spa /resort experience so
customer service is really important, "experience" being the key word.
Reasonable accommodations should be made to make the customer happy and if they
can't be made then a simple apology will do!
"I do"
MJR 2010-10-19 02:59:17

“Who the hell wants greens with their breakfast?” said the chef.

"Oh,
I do (spoken with excited emphasis like a kindergarten teacher) and here's why
they are so good for you ..."

ps. Someone forgot to take their grumpy
pills this morning!
The limits of green
Mary 2010-10-19 03:29:30

Hi

The cook should have held back no matter what your request was, but alas,
as you point out, service ain't what it used to be. Maybe this cook's rude
response has something to do with the celebrity chef phenonmenon - cooks, like
movie stars, are encouraged to 'explore the limits.' I don't think greens at
breakfast are beyond limit, though I would like to see Brad Pitt deliver me mine
first thing...
limits blah blah
Anonymous 2010-10-19 03:41:05

If you had 100% asked for them the day before and it was okay'd then the chef
shouldn't of answered that way. It could of been they were being a jerk, or they
could have been having a bad day - personally I have cooked for a person or two
in my day and have made mistakes as well, although I always manned up and owned
them, then apologized for my rudeness.

Being in the industry I can tell you
this without hesitation
1) Being a chef is a stressful position and sometimes
you snap
2) Being a customer, sometimes you are just wrong. Just deal with
it.

3) Being in both positions in many points of my life I can tell you with
all honesty chefs and customers can both be 100% asses.
Dana 2010-10-19 04:29:23

As one with food allergies, I must frequently ask for substitutions or that
something simply be left off my plate. Most chefs are only to happy to
accomodate my needs and the most memorable and best meals that I have ever eaten
came from chefs who were informed of the dangers and flexible in creating
alternatives on the spot. So -- stick to your mission, please. There is
obviously a lot more work to do in this world where a chef can make such an
ignorant and rude comment about a healthy choice.
Don't talk with your mouth full and your brains e
Brian Henry 2010-10-21 15:25:31

Seeing as this blog was written as a critique I’m of the understanding that
your blog too could use an evaluation and that you may look with retrospect at
your words…
First off this blog has more holes in it than a chunk of
Emmental…
In your opening paragraph you write of the importance of customer
service which is as equally important as honesty and fairness as a
writer/blogger and self proclaimed if not wanna be food critics alike.
You
state that this “Country Spa Inn” had a small dining room. This means it
probably has an even smaller kitchen with an even smaller kitchen staff.

During your first breakfast you were clearly told that there were no greens, and
they were being picked up later. The breakfast chef accommodated your request to
change something based upon what she had on hand. Yet you still chose to
complain albeit after the fact.
This would be your invitation to speak up and
request that maybe...
It isn't easy being green
Brian Henry 2010-10-21 15:32:46

This would be your invitation to speak up and request that maybe some greens be
reserved for you for breakfast the next day. But why do that when you can wait
until your weekend is over to launch a surprise attack on your breakfast cook
for not having service skills which obviously in your opinion means that they
must possess the skills associated with a clairvoyant to meet your needs.
With
all of your worldly experiences and the obvious fact that your raison d’etre
has blinded you to the realization that salad and breakfast rarely appear in the
same sentence or menu for that fact reveals an even greater ignorance.
What’s
wrong with Rosti?
Rosti is made from potatoes. The potato is an herbaceous
perennial that has the ability of producing fruits and vegetables depending on
the variety.
Green
Brian Henry 2010-10-21 15:34:19

Begging pity in your blog because your raison d’etre is such a heavy load and
woe is you under no circumstances gives you the right to slay all those who
stand in your way.
I agree that making healthy food choices and conscious
decisions in ones diet is important and many people do this with a religious
zeal. No one likes an extremist.
Most establishments run on a static menu.
Yet your ignorance of this common practice seemed worthy of noting in your blog.
Even more so you mention this is your third trip to this said “Country Spa
Inn”.
You also mention that “Those eggs could have been the best in the
entire county...” Opps way to slip out where you were! There is only one
county… Prince Edward County.
Try entering “Country Spa Inn Prince Edward
County” into Google hmm… gee I wonder what pops up?
Most importantly why do
we just get to hear your side of the story?
Your misery, your victim impact
s...
Green continued
Brian Henry 2010-10-21 15:35:50

Your misery, your victim impact statement?
Is there not another side?
Did we
get to hear what the breakfast cook said?
Did this person who gave you
indigestion with dreams and aspirations just like you have the opportunity to
speak here?
Is your pursuit of dietary purity (orthorexic nervosa ) so great
that all of us should bow down to you and your blog?
continued...
Brian Henry 2010-10-21 15:37:01

I would bet a lifetime supply of your sacred breakfast greens on the following -
that the person who cooked you breakfast didn’t have a lot of say in the
creation of said breakfast menu that you made your choices from. I would also
bet yet another bushel of county greens that your breakfast cook doesn’t do
much if any of the ordering in that kitchen.
In fact I bet that the Executive
chef of that kitchen doesn’t even drag their butt into it until mid-afternoon.
continued
Brian Henry 2010-10-21 15:38:19

Anyone with dietary concerns whether life threatening, dogmatic or whimsical
should confirm in advance their requests when making reservations. I’m
surprised that you like all other great stars didn’t have your PR people
groupies submit these in advance you know like Obama or Lady Gaga would do while
on tour.
You included a comment in your blog that stated “It really doesn’t
matter if you need your sleep to help you decide whether to bring millions of
dollars of business our way”
I hope I misinterpreted this statement because
to me it sounds like your fifteen minutes of fame has gone to your head.
continued
Brian Henry 2010-10-21 15:39:26

I hope that this “Spa Country Inn” in Prince Edward County has enough
integrity to stand by and support its breakfast chef and not bow down to your
blog and do something severe because you wine too much.
Maybe they should do
one better and look into issues of slander and libelous commentary.
Maybe eat
your Rosti’s next time and don’t talk with your mouth full
If nothing more
you deserve the solid F grade for your lack of judgment, and experience.
Good LAWD...
Dee Brun 2010-10-21 23:20:44

Dear Brian Henry...or Country Inn Chef...or Country Inn Owner...

Because only
someone who has a stake in something could possible have this much to say over a
blog post about greens...

The blog was about Customer Service and someone
standing behind what they preach every single day...

Maybe you need to read
it again and see that it wasn't a personal attack on Brian Henry...

I believe
the true ignorance here are your comments...as they clearly are a personal
attack on Theresa Albert...

What's wrong...did she not dance with you in high
school?
You Missed The Point
Sharon 2010-10-21 23:40:11

Dear "It's not easy being green"

In your tirade against Theresa you
missed the one simple fact that her entire blog revolved around.

The chef
yelled loudly enough from the kitchen "Who the hell wants greens for
breakfast" that Theresa, sitting in the dining room heard. This would mean
that the other people also heard.

Whether or not the greens were available
isn't the issue. Yes, Theresa wanted them but she also seems to be
understanding this isn't the norm. THUS her whole mission to change people's
eating.

The issue is the complete lack of control on the chef. What he did
was embarrassing to Theresa, to himself and to the spa. When one spends a
certain amount of money for a weekend away at the spa to relax and unwind, the
bare minimum of expectation is that they not be yelled at by the staff.
Especially when the request was not unreasonable, it just couldn't be
accomodated.

Is it ...
You Missed The POint
Sharon 2010-10-21 23:43:05

Is it possible the chef was having a bad day? Yes.

Does that give him the
right to act how he acted and ruin Theresa's day in the process?

An
emphatic no.

What the spa owners should take away from this if they ever come
to read Theresa's blog is they need to have a meeting with their entire staff
and go over the fundamentals of customer service.
You missed the point
Brian Henry 2010-10-22 01:12:09

Blogs are a great place to hear one side of a story... That is all you have
heard here...

I can see a number of flaws in what Theresa wrote so I raised
the question of what would the other side of this story be if the cook, chef,
spa, inn had a voice here.

I heard Theresa's side and got her points. I'm
asking for the otherside of the story now...
nadine 2010-10-22 04:56:23

I'm afraid I have missed the point. I thought you were questioning if it was
reasonable to request a healthy substitute. Your blog suggests the chef did
offer an option with what she had on hand, although unsatisfactory to you
because it was not the greens you requested. Is your point regarding customer
service? Is a cuss word from the kitchen truly that huge of an issue? Was the
chef busy with other customers? Were there other substitutions being requested?
Her language sounds slighlty inappropriate but hardly cause for a loss of
appetite. You cput down every last detail of your dining experience from the
waiter to the chef to the "overripe berries". Did you enjoy the food
you did get or were you too put off to even eat it? Was there any part of the
experience you did enjoy besides the "free" part of your breakfast?
Lets Stop Here
theresa albert 2010-10-22 05:24:10

To recap:
I enjoyed the rest of my meal, in a very small, very empty, still
appreciated restaurant at a lovely Inn. I felt that a small request of greens
should have been simple and was told they would be available the next day. This
post, on my personal blog, was about my experience du moment. No one was named
or attacked. No one likes to be yelled at, sworn at or embarrassed. I have not
and would not do that and yes, was put off that it was done to me.

I was
simply wondering aloud if others like greens at breakfast. Thanks for your
comments. Theresa
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